- April 29, 2020 at 1:57 pm #56953
I thought I’d post this considering. Sorry for the format issues. It was carried over from our old site and lost some of the graphs and tables.
- April 29, 2020 at 1:57 pm #56955
Can Justin Jefferson finally break this pattern? Let’s hope so!
I’m not sold.
- May 2, 2020 at 8:58 am #56977VoiceOfReasonParticipantNewbieRank: Newbie
Sydney Rice-S. CAROLINA-BASED
they all worked our pretty good
Troy Williamson-S. Carolins-SEC
Laquon Treadwell-Ole Miss-SEC
both major BUSTS
It’s not the conference, there are plenty of BUSTS from all the other conferences also, just the fact that the SEC is by far the most dominant conference in college football just amplifies the BUST factor. No one loses their shit when a early round WR from say, USC, doesn’t pan out, most people will just say the player didn’t work out, but when a early round WR from the SEC doesn’t “pan out” it’s all fire & brimstone, burn the bridges, fire everyone, yadda yadda yadda.
Sorry, my SEC bias is showing.
- May 10, 2020 at 5:39 pm #57033
Sorry I missed your reply!
I think we need to define what is a bust or what is working out “pretty good”.
If I told you that Jefferson was going to have one good year (because of who was throwing him the ball) and then the team wouldn’t even bother to resign him after his rookie deal, would that sound like it worked out okay? And if he retired due to injury shortly thereafter, again, is that a good ROI for a receiver?
Because that’s Sidney Rice’s career.
One good year.
Then he bungled his hip surgery, saying he didn’t want it then waiting and having it and ruining his 2010.
I agree that Jarvis Wright worked out. But if the best is Wright? Considering? Since Moss this team has used every first round pick, for a receiver, on a SEC receiver.
Did any of them even get beyond their rookie deals with the squad?
No. None of them did.
Meanwhile the guy I screamed and clawed for and about, Michael Thomas, was a second round pick. Now Denzel Mims will probably turn into a massive star while we’re saying things to soothe ourselves like “we’ll year three is usually when WRs bring it all together! So reserve judgement on Jefferson’s underwhelming rookie and sophomore years until then!”
I feel like I’ve been having the same debate each time they repeat the mistakes of the past.
But sure, every conference has duds. It’s my argument that the SEC produces more for tangible reasons. The Big Ten, for example, is less flashy, requires real academic standards, and thus produces players that have had to work on something outside of football/their raw talent.
Because everyone in the NFL is super talented so you have to work your ass off to make it, and even then most fail. So when you’ve been getting by on sheer talent the entire time, you’re in for a rude awakening.
That’s how I knew Treadwell was a bust before the draft (and wrote about it). You could tell by his numbers that he hadn’t spent a ton of time strength training (in the bottom 10-20% for bench press, for receivers in that draft). His entire Schtick was predicated on contested catches, jump balls, etch
So. You’d think he would have decent upper body strength. Or at least that he wasn’t also in the bottom 20% for his vertical jump, which he also was.
So, I can almost guarantee Jefferson will be a dud. He’s going to have to do things he was unable to in college, in the pros.
But, perhaps Kubiak can get a Sidney Rice esque good season or two from him before he leaves for SEAttle. Then he wouldn’t make your bust list!
Also, I think in total there has been what… over 10-12 SEC WRs now?
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